• danzania@infosec.pub
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    9 hours ago

    I know at Lemmy we usually don’t read the article title and sure as hell won’t read the actual article, so I’ll just post this here for everyone: nowhere in the article does it say they are laying people off because of AI. It merely states 9000 people will be laid off, and separately MSFT has invested a lot in AI.

    A better reframe: huge tech company shifts focus.

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      8 hours ago

      I get that, but there are other articles saying the same if not pushing it worse… My point is they are investing large amounts in AI and not people, refocus if you like but for many people AI isn’t what they want. Mind you neither is office or Windows…

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        8 hours ago

        Don’t they lay this amount off every year?

        Their workforce is upwards of 200,000. During COVID it was only 100,000. 2006 it was 60,000. But they lay off 9000 and it’s because of AI?

        Why is this AI and not just business as usual?

        I’ve been saying for a bit that these AI headlines in Lemmy are similar to anti immigrant headlines in Republican social media groups. I feel like this is just more evidence of it. It’s yellow journalism tactics

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          3 hours ago

          Another factor is Section 174 and the hiring of H1B workers. Although Microsoft’s official AI website lists many job openings, you’re right that it’s changing its focus, it’s strange that they’re changing focus so quickly. First it was the metaverse, then video games, and now it’s AI. What’s next? Quantum computing in the coming years, and pouring tons of money into it as if there were no tomorrow.

          It seems like tech companies are going through a midlife crisis, as are their shareholders, who want to be on the cutting edge and end up executing poorly. But they want to be on this trend because they don’t want to be in the same situation as Apple, which wasn’t on the cutting edge and its shareholders are suing it.

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          Because a lot of the jobs are simply going as they have replaced people with AI. Here in the UK I know about 25000 jobs gone this year with businesses I’ve worked for as they are replaced with AI. Of course, I have about 90% less work this year as well because of AI

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    11 hours ago

    I thought the new tax cuts for billionaires were going to create more jobs…

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    10 hours ago

    Weird. The cuts apparently include cancellation of several games that were planned and many of them will hit the Xbox division.

    I would’ve thought that the increased productivity that Copilot theoretically gives developers would have resulted in the reduced staff still being able to finish those games.

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      10 hours ago

      Yeah, from that perspective this reads roughly like when the Zoom CEO started forcing his own people back into the office. Basically tells the market that your company has no real faith in the claims it makes about its products.

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        The thing is, if they just pared those claims down a bit, they’d be accurate. Switch from “Copilot can build an entire application for you from scratch while giving you a blowjob” to “Copilot can help developers by automating some repetitive and time-consuming tasks,” and you still have a good thing.

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          If they marketed on the actual capability, customer executives won’t be as eager to open their wallet. Get them thinking they can reduce headcount and they’ll fall over themselves. You tell them your staff will remain about the same but some facets of their job will be easier, and they are less likely to recognize the value.

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    7 hours ago

    My favorite thing about Microsoft is that there’s no longer anyone who works there that understands the windows compiling process and internal tools. Everything is built on top of the previous version of windows going back decades.

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    11 hours ago

    I think this doesn’t really make sense for MS as a cost saving measure. It is a signal in order to sell copilot and other snaike oil to other companies hoping to cut costs.

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    9 hours ago

    Hopefully this fosters a bunch of new software from these developers if hired at other companies or working freelance/solo/whatever.

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      Not in my experience, jobs are just being lost to AI overall, as in the are simply replaced by AI. Here in the UK had whole departments replaced by AI like copywriters and summarising jobs