- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36419565
You must log in or register to comment.
Heartbreaking: the worst person you know just made a great point
if kiwi farms was a person I would bully the crap out of it until it shit it’s pants and then I’d lock it in a closet with its shitpants
Hey 4Chan was a big reason behind no one taking Scientology seriously anymore
Project 2025 and Curtis Yarvin have direct ties to 4chan as well. Maybe not the horse you wanna hitch to.
Who the fuck is Curtis Yarvin? And what the shit does P25 have to do with 4Chan?
He’s the philosopher of choice for people like Peter Thiel and JD Vance. He advocates for moving to a neofeudalist system, arguing that democracy is a failed project. Beyond this, he holds some truly repugnant views that are woven throughout his ideology
Those are great questions to start with on your search engine of choice! If you’re more of an audio person, I find this podcast to be a great overview.
The polite version of lmgtfy
No thank you, I don’t do podcasts
lucky for you, most information on the internet is in the form of text.
Well, then my favorite search engines are Kagi and DuckDuckGo.
So 4chan that said they wouldn’t pay the UK fine as the UK doesn’t have jurisdiction over companies based in the USA is going to sue UK over stuff that 4chan can’t be responsible for?
4chan will sue the UK trying to hold them responsible for UK law, in US court. Foreign judgement limiting freedom of speech. Seems to be in line with their strategy of not being an UK company so not paying fines: “Your laws don’t apply to us. Hell, they aren’t even constitutional!”.
Do you think the UK government even considered that? Do you think the Tories, who passed this law, or labour, who are full-throatedly supporting this law, even considered this?
They didn’t even consider vpns. We literally have a member of the House of lords talking about VPNs as if they were some obscure technology. She literally said “Have your heard of VPN”, one referring to it as if it was some sort of singular service.
It’s more than that. They argue that the whole network that we call the Internet was invented and is currently maintained by America (and they are not wrong), that other nations failed to invent and deploy competitive solutions and UK trying to enforce some rulings on an American network is absurd.
Kiwi farms? You mean the website that harrasses people online, Swats people, and basically does shit that is illegal in the UK anyway?
Next you’ll tell me child porn sites are suing the UK. Fuck the Online Safety Act, but yeah, they’re not the people who should be suing the UK over this.
They don’t swat people. Mass swatter Torswats (which turned out to be a team of a few people) tried to blame it on them for a little bit, but was ultimately caught.
This person also denies that Musk did a Nazi salute. They argue in bad faith and are not worth listening to.
I have no idea how precedence works in the UK. If they lose, is that a huge issue, or could a more legitimate service sue oater and realistically win if the verdict hinges on Kiwifarms being Kiwifarms?
My assumption is if they win it would be a snowball effect of other such non-uk based sites suing for non compliance to UK regulation. This wouldn’t be of great use for sites that operate in the UK as well as other countries and target UK demographic in a commercial manner.
nazi porn-enjoyers vs nazi government ultimate showdown
Where’s that worst person you know makes a good point headline when you need it
Thanks for pointing this out. Where IS the ‘Worst person you know makes a good point’-reference? Well, more like ‘The scum of the scum of the scum scum has a good point’…
Literally the worst possible champions of this cause.
Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks differently.
They come for the things nobody would be caught dead defending (often even people who privately engage in it) first. Look at how during the thing with payment processors and porn games, some people were saying they didn’t mind if it were just the rape games being banned. Those are used as justification for speech restrictions to the public.
(I don’t even think KiwiFarms should be legal personally, Chris Chan’s story should be considered evidence enough that they’re a harassment forum)
One of the games that was removed was a horror game about a stalker, which was made to raise awareness of sexual violence. Is that a rape game?
I’m just saying like I oppose the death penalty, but there are certain cases where I’m not going to die on that particular hill. I don’t believe they should be killed, but the context of the moment is going to alienate more people than it convinces.
Same thing here. I oppose identification laws but making that argument in defense of those two is going to make folks think it’s a fanatical position rather than a reasonable one.
It’s far better to argue from a reasonable position and then extend that to other cases than just argue these places should be allowed to continue to weaponize anonymity.
One I heard recently is a murder case. I’d say it sounds like murder but fuck it he deserved to die
First they came for my tendies…
Who cares? Nobody else is fighting this crap.
Wikipedia also sued but lost
Now 4chan becomes the face of resistance to this shit, and people will think it is only being opposed by a bunch of deplorable incels. It delegitimizes the entire opposition - you can’t speak out against it any more without being associated with 4chan and whatever the fuck kiwi farm is.
At least that’s the risk, and that’s why I wish these sites would go die in a hole rather than involve themselves with things I care about.
Tbh, I don’t know why a push by more left leaning sites hasn’t happened? This would at the very least show the broader unpopularity of the age verification law among pretty much both sides.
What’s a left leaning site that has lots of ‘adult’ or ‘harmful’ content?
Because they have too much shame.
It takes the shameless to stand for freedom most of the time.
Which means frequently it’s the worse kinds of people, the loudest and the most shameless. Who start. Others then follow once the ice is broken.
Yeah, everyone and their dog should jump on this.
whatever the fuck kiwi farm is.
Nazis.
Is there some way they could both lose?
Uk loses the case, both Kiwi and 4chan go into debt from legal fees? (They’re definitely not making bank)
Fuck the censorship but a non-US government should not be tried in a US court.
By that logic “non-US laws shouldn’t affect US establishments”. Have you even thought that through before typing it?
Everyone should sue those fuckers. Taking away the last pieces of our freedom.
The complaint is hilarious. So on brand.
I guess they’ll win. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens then.
Who is even running 4chan nowadays?
I assume the FBI or CIA
Its a recruitment portal, basically.
I heard it was a hacker named 4chan.
did hacker go by this name prior to successfully taking over 4chan? that’s the question
Last I heard 4chan-ers were referring to the owner as “Jap-moot”
Oh no, they might dox the PM, call him a lolcow, and SWAT 10 Downing.
The nihilist school shooters of the world are way more litigious than I thought possible.
