• Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
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    7 days ago

    It is actually decentralized though? You can host your own pds and relay for pretty cheap now.

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      7 days ago

      So how many people are doing that? I doubt more then 5% of their users are actually using a pds or ever will.

      How many times do we have to watch venture capitalists enshittify services before people learn. Do you really think bluesky doesnt have plans to extract every drop of ad revenue and data harvesting at some point, decentralization doesnt work with that business model, sure its fine now in the honeymoon phase but wait till Jack decides ita time to cash out.

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        7 days ago

        wait till Jack decides ita time to cash out

        I mean, you don’t like BlueSky, fair. But Jack Dorsey left like…over a year ago.

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        7 days ago

        I agree. That’s why I’m happy it’s fully decentralised, so that by the time they try to do that, they’ll be but one player on atproto, and won’t be able to get away with it.

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          6 days ago

          Id love to be wrong, but much like how meta patched threads into AP, i see this primarily as a performative gesture to allow them to take credit for “federating” when they have no intention of allowing it to get out of their control.

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            6 days ago

            I see why you think that, and I agree threads sucks. But bsky is actually fully open source and they are actively working to make federation better. I do think the current leadership genuinely cares about making a federated platform.

            Will they enshittify? Yes, probably when the current ceo leaves. But by then other services will have popped up, and ATproto is built in such a way that you can move services without your current service’s consent.

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        7 days ago

        How many times do we have to watch venture capitalists enshittify services before people learn.

        In reality maybe they consider the fediverse worse than the “enshittified” venture capitalist backed service?

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          Thats certainly a choice, people are very good at justifing thier support of corporations if it means even the slightest bit of convenience.

          I dont think there is much hope for the majoriy of internet users at this point, its just too easy for corps and oligarchs to control the narrative.