Hi everyone,
I’m visiting some family in another area of the country soon, and have the opportunity to set up a little remote backup server.
Essentially I would like to set something up that I can ssh into and backup photos/videos/documents from my main server periodically once a month or so. Ideally it would be off until I need to turn it on.
I’m looking for ideas on how to best approach this. What kind of hardware would you use in my shoes? I have a couple of spare raspberry pi’s I was thinking to use with an external drive. I was also considering something like those ugreen nas devices that have been popping up. I would ideally set it up and do a sync before I head there, and then just plug it in. Would wake on lan be advised for this?
I would consider also the case where something goes wrong. Maybe the whole thing crashes, maybe you misconfigure something, maybe there’s a power outage or something else happens and you lose the connectivity. Is there someone on site who can do anything to your hardware as you can’t easily just go and figure it out by yourself?
If the answer is ‘no’ then I would strongy reconsider the whole approach. On a worst case scenario the system goes down before you’re even back home from the trip and then your hardware is just gathering dust.
This scenario is why my offsite backup is primarily a backblaze b2 bucket, while also running a large media backup to an external HDD once a month which I keep in a storage unit. Janky but effective
Wake on LAN won’t work remotely, so you’d either need to have access to a VPN at their location, or have a 2nd always on device that you can connect to and that could then WoL to your device… or… get a device with an IPMI which you remote into. (All non-VPN forms of remote connection are open to abuse)
I suspect (guess) you’re not going to be able to setup a VPN, so perhaps an always on pi is going to be necessary - so maybe it’ll be that with drives set to spin down when idle?
OpenMediaVault was my preferred choice until everything went docker on it which was getting too complex for a NAS… so I just created my own, which powers on at certain times of the day and off again when CPU / network IO was low enough.
Data transfer with syncthing is great, but I don’t really recommend sync for snapshot backups… (consider your files are all corrupted, it’ll happily sync those corruptions) but I have enough space for a few versions of my files, so in theory I can roll back, but it’s cetainly not a Grandfather, Father, Son strategy.
What are you using for your main backup? It probably has a feature for doing remote backup / duplication. You’re best off using that.
If you don’t, then I think that’s probably your first order of business. There are a bunch of good COTS NAS devices that support remote backup to a similar device or to the cloud. Synology generally seems to be the easiest to use based on reviews, but recently they’ve been getting picky about hard drive support.
If you’d rather DIY then there are some FOSS software options to let you build your own NAS and then back it up to the cloud or to a remote device running the same software. These can get pretty complicated from what I can tell (I’m in the process of doing something similar, been researching). Options include OpenMediaVault, and TrueNAS. TrueNAS seems to be “better” but more complicated and easy to fuck up.
Unraid is also very popular, but it costs money to get a software license. Users swear by it, though.
And on the outside HexOS - a fork (or maybe alternative front end?) of TrueNAS, by some former Unraid devs, with the goal of making TrueNAS as easy to use as Unraid. But it’s both paid and beta, so probably not a good choice yet.These will all allow remote backup to cloud or to a remote device running the same software. They also typically support some kind of virtualization with an app store, so you can use your NAS to host other servers like a media server or immich or home assistant, etc (although app ecosystem abundance will vary).
Wrt hardware, you’ll have to look up system requirements for the software you want to use. For example, TrueNAS uses ZFS filesystem, which wants a lot of ram if you need it to perform well.
If your r-pi can run the software you want, then you can get a SATA hat for your pi, to run a couple hard drives. You can also get NAS cases for your pi.
I probably wouldn’t recommend leaving a mess of cables and parts at your friend’s house across the country, it’s better for both of you if the system is fairly well contained - enough for them to move it without risk of parts getting disconnected.Thanks for the detailed reply.
So my main NAS is Unraid, and I also have a couple of proxmox boxes. Though I’m less concerned about the proxmox boxes as the main files are on the NAS, and I have a proxmox backup server vm set up on Unraid with regular backups there.
For most of my important files on unraid, I have an external drive that I periodically sync and store in a safe.
I also have access to a VPS with over 1TB of space which I am still figuring out how to best integrate into my backup strategy.
For what I’m asking here, I just want to have a simple solution that I can tuck away and have remote access to and just use syncthing or something to keep it updated.
Ah, ok then, never mind my answer. I greatly misjudged what you were really looking for
Depends a little of how you set it up. But for the target system at least use some kind of raid/raidz. With ZFS you can do “zfs-send” perhaps? Or something like good old rsync would work to.
raspberry pi + USB raid enclosure in mirror mode with 2x HDD
Do you think a pi 3b would be enough for this?
I have two spare low performance 4TB drives I was thinking to use for this. It’s not quite enough though. Would be ideal to find a way to be able to have someone there easily add a drive when needed 🤔
The 3b just has USB 2, so even with slow spinning rust, that’s going to be a bottleneck. But it’s probably still plenty fast as a remote storage device for media storage.
Edit: said I didn’t know OP’s use case but in re-reading they did say. Edited accordingly.
Hmm good point on it being usb2. I would only occasionally power it on to sync, and the sync could be 50Mb or 20Gb, but even then I think that should be ok.
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