• Pika@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    I’m waiting for the EU to eventually say “Ok nevermind, this is clearly a company that isn’t going to be compliant. If not compliant by X date this company will no longer be allowed to operate here”

    Or a hella massive fine for blatant waste of regulators time plus non-compliance.

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      I’ve been saying for the past two years that Apple should stop doing business in the EU, but every time that I bring that up someone points out the manufacturer of the chip making machine is based in the EU therefore no one can pull out.

      Gross.

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        the manufacturer of the chip making machine is based in the EU therefore no one can pull out

        This has nothing to do with anything, really. It’s not like, because I don’t sell in the US I can’t use American made steel or something.

        The actual reason why Apple, and every other company, doesn’t want to leave the EU (China for that matter) despite increasingly stringent regulations, it’s because the EU represents a huge portion of their revenue and leaving would mean losing billions upon billions, all in the hopes of saving millions.

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        19 hours ago

        EU is also the second largest economy after the US in the world. Vacating the region would cost way more than compliance.

  • DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    I don’t know. I understand some good devs are paying the price, but…

    Here in US apps are allowed to external links. Before I was opening and app, subscribing and canceling in the seam month if I wanted

    Now DAZN (sport streaming) is forcing users to give 30 days notice. So if you use for a day. You need to pay 2 months.

    I would prefer to pay 30% more than 100% more to use DAZN for a single month.

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    1 day ago

    Governments are going about this the wrong way. The problem isn’t with app stores. The problem is that you can’t install a different OS on your phone (or current Mac, or iPad).

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      5 hours ago

      The problem is that you don’t own the right to use your own device the way you see fit, and are instead locked into systems you can’t escape from.

      You should be able to freely install the software you like, be that an OS, a third party app or even your own program, and you should be able to use all the features of your devices, freely, without being locked out due to the app or accessory not being first party.

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      14 hours ago

      TBH Mac’s bootloader is pretty open so you can install whatever. There’s a nice distro named Asahi which you can spin up in like 5 minutes.

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        The Mac bootloader (and for now, who knows about the future). But what about iPhones and iPads?

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      No one should have to have an IT degree just to have the software they want installed on their devices.

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      22 hours ago

      On machines where it’s trivial to do so (such as pcs), how many real life users (as opposed to forum haunting online geeks) will install another os?

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        It’s not so trivial, different BIOS’es have different hotkeys to enter setup, different functionality, and device drivers are usually provided certainly only for the main OS.

        Perhaps legal obligation to provide proper datasheets (easy to do, ye-es? they already certainly have those, ye-es, otherwise how did they make that Windblows\MockOS driver?) for device manufacturers and sellers (cause I the customer shouldn’t care to look for them, everything should be in the box in paper form ; just like all other schematics, if in 1970s you’d tell someone that a complex expensive machine is sold to customers without schematics, people wouldn’t believe you, they’d say you’re nuts, they’d ask where the regulators are sleeping, and they’d wonder how it’s possible to operate a device without schematics), and obligation to not employ various technologies to prevent replacement of onboard devices and loading of unsigned drivers, should exist.

        The best part about all this is that such a law could be written so that it equally well applies to a 1970s machine, a today’s machine and whatever they’ll come up with in year 2066.

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        How many real life users are going to install software from somewhere other than the built in app store on their phone?

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          Opening the phone to other app stores is just the first step. The second is letting the user choose an app store when they first start their phone similarly to how they already enforce browser choice.

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      The problem is that the stock OS is a walled garden. No common user will flash their phone.

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        I have an idea - make this issue solved via direct popular vote. Ranked choice, variants range from “Apple owns your butts” to “Apple should be punished with its monthly margin for failing to deliver hourly orgasms with its devices” to “Apple open sources and PD’s everything or Apple leaves”.

        They’ll be interested themselves in making the OS as convenient for normal usage as possible. Including the walled garden part. OK, just a thought experiment.

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    RtJ called it out years ago:

    1. Lie
    2. Cheat
    3. Steal
    4. Kill
    5. Win
      (everybody’s doin’ it)
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    Apple is a piece of shit company standing in the shadow of its past self.

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      They have been this way from day 1. They called it “end to end control”.

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        They at some point boasted that their stuff can be used without hoops and intentional impediments. In Hypercard and such times.

        It seems crazy, but they even paid authors of kinda sci-fi or futuristic stories featuring their hardware.

        They made it seem they are almost an anarchist company.

        They also, which is even harder to believe now, aimed at advanced usage. As in - “works out of the box” and “even a child can use it” and “everything graphical”, but at the same time in that spirit, which Hotline and KDX and PureData still reminisce. A user-friendly application which is not dumb.

        It’s actually useful to see, to understand that modern commercial claims of “user-friendly == dumb” are aimed at nothing else than centralized control and obscure shit under the hood.

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      Nah his is even stupider.

      Delay, delay delay

      … Until you can quash it… Which I guess if cheating so I suppose you’re right