“Access” as in: have anything to do with them? Then why tf are you using Word on Windows?
“Access” as in: be able to read them? That would be super illegal for them to do and the easiest class action lawsuit win in history. EU fines would eat them alive.
You can definetly collect a lot of useful telemetry data without collecting any of the, lets say, “most sensitive” private information.
Just to exemplify:
you can collect telemetry on the most acessed features of a software and associate it with their location: whilst collecting their location you can definetly choose between having the person’s specific location (GPS coordinates with a few meters of accuracy) or their broad location (i.e.: their city, state, or country).
with the broad location you can have insights on how users of your software behave per region and plan accordinly actions or those regions.
Collecting someones specific location is definetly way more sensitive than their broad location…
And the full content of all textual documents a person generates has a very high chance of containing of their most sensitive private information…
because your phone/laptop doesn’t have a global wi-fi connection, and you might want to open a document pause for dramatic effect outside of your home or work!
I’ve yet to see a cloud storage solution that doesn’t have offline-storage.
Like… WTF is going on? This is the Technology community, and yet you people come here and comment like you’ve only dealt with computers in the 90s…
The file is saved locally, then - as soon as there’s a network connection - gets uploaded to the Cloud and remains in both locations. You can access it from both “ends” - if you edit it in the Cloud or on a different device, the changes get sync’d down, etc.
i’ve seen my friends who never changed a setting in their life struggle with not being able to access their files when their internet died. how default settings work i do not know exactly myself, i don’t use cloud saving
There are only two possibilities here: either they were trying to access these files offline on a different device, or they had their storage completely full.
In the latter case OneDrive will kick out the oldest files to Online Only, so that you still have space to save newer stuff locally.
Oh, I guess there’s a third option - they were using some obscure third party cloud storage. Something that’s not Filen, OneDrive or DropBox.
Libre office does the job for me! Auto save on cloud sucks. At least you can turn it off! For now.
Depends on the cloud. I like my files being automatically backed up to my private Nextcloud server.
I understand, everyone has different options on this! I prefer to choose what stays local and what on cloud.
Why?
Because I do not want Microsoft to have access to all my documents.
This
That’s not how cloud save works!
The files are saved to local storage that then gets sync’d up to the Cloud. The files are available both on- and offline.
“Access” as in: have anything to do with them? Then why tf are you using Word on Windows?
“Access” as in: be able to read them? That would be super illegal for them to do and the easiest class action lawsuit win in history. EU fines would eat them alive.
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You need to explain why you think the second statement refutes the first.
I think I accidentally posted that on the wrong comment. My bad.
As if windows does not send telemetry
Telemetry ≠ Uploading whole documents Which does not mean I defend Windows telemetry but it’s quite different
Comes from a person who hasn’t written telemetry. It’s either useless or contains private information
Private information doesn’t necessarily mean “entire contents of all word documents I have ever created”
Cloud storage has nothing to do with anything/anyone reading the contents of your files.
It’s absolutely mind boggling to me how many completely ignorant people are on the Technology community here.
Just imagining the fines from the “won by default” lawsuits that MS would suffer at the hands of their EU users makes this whole notion hilarious!
There are many tiers of private information.
You can definetly collect a lot of useful telemetry data without collecting any of the, lets say, “most sensitive” private information.
Just to exemplify:
you can collect telemetry on the most acessed features of a software and associate it with their location: whilst collecting their location you can definetly choose between having the person’s specific location (GPS coordinates with a few meters of accuracy) or their broad location (i.e.: their city, state, or country).
Collecting someones specific location is definetly way more sensitive than their broad location…
And the full content of all textual documents a person generates has a very high chance of containing of their most sensitive private information…
What an ignorant thing to say…
Don’t use Windows either.
because your phone/laptop doesn’t have a global wi-fi connection, and you might want to open a document pause for dramatic effect outside of your home or work!
Depending on your setup, you will always have an offline copy, too.
I have never seen a setup where that’s not the case.
I’ve yet to see a cloud storage solution that doesn’t have offline-storage.
Like… WTF is going on? This is the Technology community, and yet you people come here and comment like you’ve only dealt with computers in the 90s…
The file is saved locally, then - as soon as there’s a network connection - gets uploaded to the Cloud and remains in both locations. You can access it from both “ends” - if you edit it in the Cloud or on a different device, the changes get sync’d down, etc.
i’ve seen my friends who never changed a setting in their life struggle with not being able to access their files when their internet died. how default settings work i do not know exactly myself, i don’t use cloud saving
There are only two possibilities here: either they were trying to access these files offline on a different device, or they had their storage completely full.
In the latter case OneDrive will kick out the oldest files to Online Only, so that you still have space to save newer stuff locally.
Oh, I guess there’s a third option - they were using some obscure third party cloud storage. Something that’s not Filen, OneDrive or DropBox.