• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    Where did I claim Gamers Nexus is above using click bait!
    But very clearly it isn’t here, and the amount of downvotes you received for claiming it, hints that most don’t agree with you.
    So maybe it’s not so much me, as it is you making an unreasonable and unfounded claim.

    And no the take down is not reverted, it is in a process where it MAY be reverted.

    Also I don’t see you provide a single valid argument for your statement, while I actually explain how it is not click bait, because the threat is real.

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      7 hours ago

      But very clearly it isn’t here

      How the hell isn’t it?

      Title: “Our Channel Could Be Deleted” <insert dramatic thumbnail featuring the word “SILENCED” in big capital letters>

      Yet even in the video itself they explain that :

      1. Youtube sided with them, the copyright strike got reverted and the video wil be restored. The only recourse Bloomberg has is to press actual charges in a court of law.
      2. It takes three copyright strikes to delete a channel, not one.

      And I will add my own 3: YouTube will never just outright delete a cashcow channel like GamersNexus.

      I get that they’re pissed because the claim was bogus and it cost them good ad revenue on that video, and they will probably not recoup the cost of making it, but the channel is not and never was in danger of being deleted. So the title is clickbait intended to generate outrage for some, let’s be honest, rather mid content.

      the amount of downvotes

      LOL “I’m right because I got more upvotes”.

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        19 hours ago

        How the hell isn’t it?

        Because it is true, the channel could be deleted, and it was an obvious attempt by Bloomberg to silence him, which he shows many reason for why they may want to do in the video.

        When it is true it is not clickbait.

        Youtube sided with them, the copyright strike got reverted and the video restored.

        For the fourth time, it is NOT reverted, and the video is NOT restored.

        It takes three copyright strikes to delete a channel.

        Maybe it is the third? You don’t know, at least you haven’t shown anything to indicate that you do.

        And I will add my own 3: YouTube will never just outright delete a cashcow channel like GamersNexus.

        Again Gamers Nexus is small fry for YouTube.

        LOL “I’m right because I got more upvotes”.

        No you make false claims, and was downvoted for it. Usually click bait is an easily accepted answer, but here it was not because you are wrong.

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          19 hours ago

          How the fuck are you so dense?

          Read my whole comment. It is demonstrably NOT true.

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            19 hours ago

            I did and edited my comment, adding more false claims doesn’t make you right.
            Also it’s rich calling me dense, when you repeatedly make the same false claim that the take down is reverted when it is not. It’s explained very clearly in the video, that it takes 10 days from filing the complaint, and if Bloomberg persist on the issue, the take down stands.

            You are very dense to not accept that when it’s explained to you at least three times!!!

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              19 hours ago

              It’s explained very clearly in the video, that it takes 10 days from filing the complaint. If Bloomberg persist on the issue, the take down stands.

              I addressed this. Bloomberg must press actual legal charges for the takedown to stand, and provide proof to Youtube. This is mentioned very around 7:32 in the video. Here’s a screenshot:

              YouTube is basically saying to Bloomberg: yeah, we are ruling that this is not infringement, but if you still disagree and really want to press the issue… put your money where your mouth is and provide proof that you filed actual legal charges. They’re only doing what is legally required of them by the DMCA.

              And, as you conveniently keep ignoring, even if alllll this ends up with Bloomberg suing GamersNexus in a court of law and winning (a highly unlikely outcome) and the video being permanently delisted… that is still only 1 copyright strike, and not enough for “The Channel To Be Deleted!!!”. It basically takes 3 strikes within the same 90 days for a channel to be subject to deletion. Ergo: it is fucking click bait. Their channel is not and never was in danger of being deleted.

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                I addressed this. Bloomberg must press actual legal charges for the takedown to stand,

                Why then did you continue to claim: “the copyright strike got reverted and the video restored.” ?

                YouTube is basically saying to Bloomberg: yeah, we are ruling that this is not infringement,

                No they are not, because the decision stands unless Bloomberg doesn’t take further action.

                Notice the take down notice according to Bloomberg themselves ,was not a mistake made by some form of automation. It was a manually reviewed take down notice by Bloomberg specifically against the video.
                Also notice that such a take down notice result in a 100% guaranteed 10 day take down of the video, silencing it for 10 days, where even if restored after 10 days will only receive a fraction of the original views due to the YouTube algorithm not presenting it.

                So the Silence part is 100% true and not clickbait as you claim.

                IF Bloomberg chooses to pursue the issue in court, the take down will stand even though it is obviously made in bad faith. This is very contrary to your claim that it’s already lifted which it is NOT!

                that is still only 1 copyright strike

                You keep claiming that, as if it has any real relevance. And as if you know how many of these they receive on average, and completely disregarding how easy it is to make a DMCA take down claim, and disregarding how these claims take down channels even when they are obviously not valid.
                One aspect of how insane the YouTube practices are on handling these is described here:
                https://www.reddit.com/r/PartneredYoutube/comments/1fg08j6/youtube_gave_me_a_copyright_strike_for_my_own/

                So now if you would care to consider the motivation for the take down, which we don’t know for sure, but we do have some circumstantial evidence.
                The video was about AI chips used in China that China is not supposed to have access to.
                The AI market in China is a $30+ billion per year market for Nvidia. So obviously Nvidia is not interested in it being disclosed about how their chips are sold to China despite being sanctioned.
                Also notice that Nvidia is Bloombergs biggest customer. And Bloomberg made a similar video to the one Gamers Nexus made, but where Bloomberg found nothing,

                Now consider a billion dollar market is at stake, and Nvidia probably spend more than the total value of Gamers Nexus at Bloomberg per month. How big do you think Gamers Nexus is in that context? They are as I described small, it’s like a mouse fighting an rhino.

                Now if Nvidia want that video blocked more than 10 days, they can easily have Bloomberg continue their frivolous claim, and have other allies post take down notices against Gamers Nexus and have the channel closed. It’s actually insane how easy it is, because Google seems to almost always side with the bigger player, probably because it’s the cheapest solution requiring the fewest lawyers.

                So the threat to close the channel is absolutely there. And the only real protection Gamers Nexus has is the Streisand effect. Legally they can practically do next to nothing.

                If Bloomberg decides to, they can squash Gamers Nexus like a bug with little effort. If you really can’s see that you are very naive.