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Waaaay less money to be made there. Not saying he’s exclusively doing this for the money like the other reply, but we’re not talking about some solo guy making videos in his free time for fun. The man is running a business, needs money to make this videos happen, and to my knowledge this is his job.
Because they do actually do it for the money. It’s a job, and if they put the same content on a non monetized platform, they would drive they’re own viewers away from their own monetized platform = less money.
If he reduces views on YT, the algo will recommend him less. His internal sponsors won’t pay more for the non YT content so he’ll just be gutting his own traffic if it takes off. Assuming he has disks around with all his finished content on it, he could stand it up later if he wanted, but it’s not like Peertube can host an unlimited amount of video for free. Someone is paying for those disks and for the transfer of those bits.
Ideally, he’d stand up his own PT and we’d share in watching his stuff and reduce costs Peer style. But he’s still going to be out a serious payment stream and the PT network can’t just perpetually bare the cost of his storage.
It’s like if LMG wanted to host their back catalog, we’d need peer tube hosts with a PB of storage sitting around ready to take his catalog.
Initial setup is the only real time investment. Once you have the final edited video exported, uploading it to multiple platforms doesn’t take much more time. It does take away ad impressions from YouTube, though.
That’s definitely an option. It would be a good idea for him to do that, I think. But my main point is that losing YouTube would be devastating for GN regardless of whether or not they’re on peertube, and moving entirely to peertube isn’t really feasible for them
$$$ that’s why. YouTube gives the greatest return. If they post to multiple platforms, not only is it more work, but they then also subtract from the number of views they get on YouTube. It’s all about the $$$.
In their documentary GamersNexus stated that they would air it without advertisements if a certain treshold of funding was reached. I imagine Patreon, their store and other sources make GamersNexus more money than Youtube advertisement. And it is certainly not their only source.
I’m still not sure which side of that whole thing i’m on. I know he’s less annoying than Linus. But even Billit labs seems to have less hate for LMG than he does :)
That would defeat the entire purpose of sensationalist headlines and blowing up a Google search as a “deep investigation” which is this channel’s main source of attention.
They want the clicks on YouTube. Moving to PeerTube would be great if they just wanted the information to be out there, but that’s not their primary concern.
Undeniably he gets more clicks for this. However, would you deny somebody their own soapbox when they’re getting fucked by the system? He is using his leverage to call out the bullshit DMCA system that YouTube has in place which allows anybody to fuck with anybody. And in this case he’s bringing to light a giant Goliath of a company Bloomberg for fucking with his few person team, and for YouTube for making it the default.
I don’t think they’re sensationalist, they just don’t sugarcoat the industry bullshit. And believe it or not, they need to make money from this, it doesn’t pay itself. It’s like saying newspapers should be free, or else informing the people isn’t their primary concern.
“A farmer wants the money. Giving the good away for free would be great if they just wanted to feed people, but that’s not their primary concern.” Can even play that game for nurses etc
The channel is not in danger of being deleted, not even close. They received a single copyright strike, which in principle already got reversed by youtube (though still pending a 10 day waiting period for the claimant to reply and file legal action). It takes 3 valid copyright strikes within a 90 day period for a channel to be deleted.
They’re not angry because their channel is in danger of being deleted, they’re angry because they got hit in the moneys, losing ad revenue on a video that probably cost quite a bit of money to produce. Because of how the algorithm works, they’ll probably not recoup the lost views on that particular video, even when it’s reinstated.
It’s also not like abusive and frivolous copyright strikes are a new thing. They’ve been a byproduct of the safe harbor provisions (aka OCILLA ) in the DMCA for almost 3 decades now (DMCA was introduced in 1998), and the chilling effects on online speech and liberties have been well documented and covered to death by various publications over the years, but somehow GamersNexus only discovers it and starts to care when their bottom line is affected by it. I get that it’s not cool, but I don’t get why people should care about this particular instance of DMCA abuse, especially as it seems to be going as well for GamersNexus as a copyright strike can possibly go, given that Youtube already ruled in their favor.
To me it comes across as a hastily put together video to spring on their audience to whip up outrage and compensate for lost ad revenue. It’s a tried and true tactic, if you don’t have news, make the news. It seems to be working too: after one day this video already has more views than anything else they put out in the last 6 months, so it will probably make them more money than the taken down video would ever make. Good for them, but that doesn’t mean that you can’t see it for the sensationalist click bait non-story that it is.
Their bread and butter is hardware reviews and weekly news. No, they’re not a drama channel. Just because that’s the only time you, personally, hear about them doesn’t mean the rest of us work that way.
Telling Linus to fuck off is a good idea regardless of views.
I don’t have an interest in being liked by Steve. I do have an interest in journalism outlets who are willing to say that a $4T market cap company is full of shit.
He should be on PeerTube, anyways.
Waaaay less money to be made there. Not saying he’s exclusively doing this for the money like the other reply, but we’re not talking about some solo guy making videos in his free time for fun. The man is running a business, needs money to make this videos happen, and to my knowledge this is his job.
Can someone explain me why creators cant do both? Reupload a mirror on peertube.
Its in their interest to have a solid backup when youtube inevitably dies.
Because they do actually do it for the money. It’s a job, and if they put the same content on a non monetized platform, they would drive they’re own viewers away from their own monetized platform = less money.
It’d be dangerous to his revenue stream.
If he reduces views on YT, the algo will recommend him less. His internal sponsors won’t pay more for the non YT content so he’ll just be gutting his own traffic if it takes off. Assuming he has disks around with all his finished content on it, he could stand it up later if he wanted, but it’s not like Peertube can host an unlimited amount of video for free. Someone is paying for those disks and for the transfer of those bits.
Ideally, he’d stand up his own PT and we’d share in watching his stuff and reduce costs Peer style. But he’s still going to be out a serious payment stream and the PT network can’t just perpetually bare the cost of his storage.
It’s like if LMG wanted to host their back catalog, we’d need peer tube hosts with a PB of storage sitting around ready to take his catalog.
Linus has nowhere near a PB worth of content, between all of his channels.
assuming they didn’t keep 8K, Just the raw 4k footage from just the wan show for one year would be ~150tb
To further clarify, his big PB-scale servers are for hosting their archive of raw footage.
They can, Gardiner Bryant does, and Louis Rossmann uploads to Odyssee. Afaik, there’s nothing preventing a creator from doing that aside from time.
Initial setup is the only real time investment. Once you have the final edited video exported, uploading it to multiple platforms doesn’t take much more time. It does take away ad impressions from YouTube, though.
this is speculation, but it’s possible that youtube don’t like it when large mainstream creators have backup platforms and will start cracking down.
LOTS of big creators post their videos multiple places.
That’s definitely an option. It would be a good idea for him to do that, I think. But my main point is that losing YouTube would be devastating for GN regardless of whether or not they’re on peertube, and moving entirely to peertube isn’t really feasible for them
I do not understand why creators feel the need to be exclusively on one platform. Simply crosspost the videos.
$$$ that’s why. YouTube gives the greatest return. If they post to multiple platforms, not only is it more work, but they then also subtract from the number of views they get on YouTube. It’s all about the $$$.
In their documentary GamersNexus stated that they would air it without advertisements if a certain treshold of funding was reached. I imagine Patreon, their store and other sources make GamersNexus more money than Youtube advertisement. And it is certainly not their only source.
If those other sources make more money and get more viewers, why did it start on YouTube?
That is where the majority of the audience is.
Nah. He’d be better off on floatplane. I wonder why he isn’t… 🤔
LOL, the world may never know.
I’m still not sure which side of that whole thing i’m on. I know he’s less annoying than Linus. But even Billit labs seems to have less hate for LMG than he does :)
That would defeat the entire purpose of sensationalist headlines and blowing up a Google search as a “deep investigation” which is this channel’s main source of attention.
They want the clicks on YouTube. Moving to PeerTube would be great if they just wanted the information to be out there, but that’s not their primary concern.
Undeniably he gets more clicks for this. However, would you deny somebody their own soapbox when they’re getting fucked by the system? He is using his leverage to call out the bullshit DMCA system that YouTube has in place which allows anybody to fuck with anybody. And in this case he’s bringing to light a giant Goliath of a company Bloomberg for fucking with his few person team, and for YouTube for making it the default.
I don’t think they’re sensationalist, they just don’t sugarcoat the industry bullshit. And believe it or not, they need to make money from this, it doesn’t pay itself. It’s like saying newspapers should be free, or else informing the people isn’t their primary concern.
“A farmer wants the money. Giving the good away for free would be great if they just wanted to feed people, but that’s not their primary concern.” Can even play that game for nurses etc
To the contrary, they massively inflate whatever they can find that will gather clicks.
Examples?
Um, the video in question here?
The channel is not in danger of being deleted, not even close. They received a single copyright strike, which in principle already got reversed by youtube (though still pending a 10 day waiting period for the claimant to reply and file legal action). It takes 3 valid copyright strikes within a 90 day period for a channel to be deleted.
They’re not angry because their channel is in danger of being deleted, they’re angry because they got hit in the moneys, losing ad revenue on a video that probably cost quite a bit of money to produce. Because of how the algorithm works, they’ll probably not recoup the lost views on that particular video, even when it’s reinstated.
It’s also not like abusive and frivolous copyright strikes are a new thing. They’ve been a byproduct of the safe harbor provisions (aka OCILLA ) in the DMCA for almost 3 decades now (DMCA was introduced in 1998), and the chilling effects on online speech and liberties have been well documented and covered to death by various publications over the years, but somehow GamersNexus only discovers it and starts to care when their bottom line is affected by it. I get that it’s not cool, but I don’t get why people should care about this particular instance of DMCA abuse, especially as it seems to be going as well for GamersNexus as a copyright strike can possibly go, given that Youtube already ruled in their favor.
To me it comes across as a hastily put together video to spring on their audience to whip up outrage and compensate for lost ad revenue. It’s a tried and true tactic, if you don’t have news, make the news. It seems to be working too: after one day this video already has more views than anything else they put out in the last 6 months, so it will probably make them more money than the taken down video would ever make. Good for them, but that doesn’t mean that you can’t see it for the sensationalist click bait non-story that it is.
Source of attention? By flying to another country and getting access to areas people never even knew? Lol wtf are you on about?
Lemmy simps really hard for gamers nexus, even though they’re just a drama channel at this point.
Their bread and butter is hardware reviews and weekly news. No, they’re not a drama channel. Just because that’s the only time you, personally, hear about them doesn’t mean the rest of us work that way.
Telling Linus to fuck off is a good idea regardless of views.
Simp spotted. Tech drama Jesus isn’t gonna like you more for defending him, he doesn’t even care that you exist.
I don’t have an interest in being liked by Steve. I do have an interest in journalism outlets who are willing to say that a $4T market cap company is full of shit.
I’m willing to say that too, but you have to admit that it’s a lot easier to say such things on a Youtube video that gets you 900k views in a day.
Also: careful to censor those middle fingers so you don’t get … gasp… demonetized