• theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Yeah I mean the tax payers have literally already paid for all of both SpaceX and Starlink. The public paid for it, the public should own it.

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      3 months ago

      They’re just following in the footsteps of Comcast. The FCC gave SpaceX/Starlink $885.5 million to provide rural broadband after they gave Comcast over $1 billion less than 5 years ago to do the same thing. Starlink actually works out there from what I understand, so I guess that’s something.

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    3 months ago

    You could always just fund the space agency you already have, instead of funneling money to a foreign billionaire.

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    3 months ago

    Has anyone considered funding NASA?

    They made rockets that didn’t explode with duct tape and a TI-83 calculator.

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      3 months ago

      Shouldn’t be incompatible with nationalizing SpaceX and Starlink. Just give it all to NASA, actually.

  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
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    3 months ago

    That would literally be the worse thing that could happen with regards to them, because they only exist and thrived because they are private enterprise. If the government were capable of doing what those companies do and doing it well, SpaceX and Starlink wouldn’t exist in the first place.

    Can you even imagine just how much money would be wasted and misused and unaccounted for, while nothing actually got done?

    Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is delusional

    • freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Please. They only exist because of government funding. If NASA had as many rockets explode as SpaceX has, people like you would be screaming about the waste of taxpayer dollars.

      Also, it’s only a matter of time before starlink satellites crash into each other and start a chain reaction. You can kiss space travel goodbye after that.

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        3 months ago

        If NASA had as many rockets explode as SpaceX has, people like you would be screaming about the waste of taxpayer dollars.

        The point of the launches that have ended in explosion were to test various parts of the systems and hardware, and to learn if/when a “disaster” does happen. That’s how you improve things, make them better and safer. Would you prefer when we finally send people to the moon or to Mars that it’s the first time we’ve launched that rocket? Those explosions weren’t bad things.

        • freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          Are you for real? Can you guess how many Saturn V rockets ended up exploding throughout the first mission to put man on the moon? Trick question, the answer was ZERO.

          The Saturn V program had completed more successful milestones in 1 year than SpaceX has managed in 5 year.

          SpaceX has been late on every single deliverable to NASA. They were supposed to show they can reliably perform the propellant transfer for the NASA contract, and instead Musk focused on testing the deployment of starlink satellites, which of course failed. And now they lost one more on the pad getting fueled up.

          It’s complete incompetence, which is the one thing Musk can guarantee

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            3 months ago

            How many of those Saturn V rockets landed themselves back on the launch pad?

            NASAs milestones were not the same as, nor anywhere near as hard as, SpaceX’s.

            Your incompetence line shows you’re not capable of being impartial in this so there’s no real point continuing. You’re saying the guy responsible for the EV market we have no, the almost fully self driving cars we have now, the satellite internet network we have now, and the reusable spaceship booster rockets we have now is “incompetent”. You’re not here to actually have a discussion.

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      3 months ago

      NASA is too beholden to politics… You can’t do 7 year builds and missions when the Senate flips every 4 years and has to kill everything the other side did on principle that it has a D or R attached to it. Everything is political.

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          3 months ago

          It is usually due to “budget cuts” as the easiest way to kill a project is to defend it.

          Juno Jupiter flyby

          Maven mission to mars

          New horizons kbo flyby

          Terra mission-earth science satellite

          Aqua mission -earth science satellite

          DSCOVR

          SLS-which may actually be a bad program but is a good example of the political issues with NASA vs senate.