• HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Support? Absolutely not.

    Allow? Not my child.

    Make illegal? Nope. Not my business to tell other parents how to raise their children.

    And that’s exactly the problem here. People like YOU, who think that if I don’t want something illegal, than that of course means I like that thing, or that I personally want to do that thing.

    Nope. It has to do with personal autonomy. I’m not your boss, I shouldn’t get to tell YOU what you can do to yourself. Period.

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      15 hours ago

      Nope. It has to do with personal autonomy. I’m not your boss, I shouldn’t get to tell YOU what you can do to yourself. Period.

      Wait, this way every **laws **is useless then, I am not your boss, I shouldn’t get to tell YOU that you cannot drive while drunk.

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        12 hours ago

        Except you forget about the whole “as long as it doesn’t directly affect others” thing.

        Or, more likely, you intentionally ignored it in order to score some “gotcha” for Internet points.

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          11 hours ago

          Except you forget about the whole “as long as it doesn’t directly affect others” thing.

          I followed on your steatment. If I forgot it, you also forgot it.

          But my point stand, by the traffic code you cannot drive drunk also if you don’t affect anyone else on the road.
          Generally it is not that you can do something that is illegal thinking that it is ok as long as it doesn’t affect others.

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            10 hours ago

            Let me turn that around on you.

            You think people should be charged with a crime they haven’t done yet? Because that is exactly what happens in some DUI arrests.

            Sleeping it off in your car but have the engine on because it’s cold/hot outside? DUI.

            Then there are the idiotic open container laws where even an open alcoholic drink is legally a DUI, even if the driver isn’t drinking.

            And if you can’t afford a good lawyer? It’s a conviction. Which goes on your permanent record.

            A guy I worked with had a motorcycle try to pass his company vehicle as he was turning left. The motorcycle driver was killed.

            It fucked the guy up so bad, mentally. He began drinking. Never at work, but he drove a company vehicle. See where this is going yet? If not let me finish.

            A block from his house, he cracked open a beer. Now even if he had chugged it, there’s no way he’d be even slightly drunk before he got home. But he didn’t realize the worker who sold him the beer had already called the police and he was being followed.

            The arrested him for DUI in his own driveway, due to idiotic open container laws, despite blowing a 0.

            He took a plea for reckless endangerment, but it didn’t matter. He was 4 years from retirement. He was fired.